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Annex Canada, Mexico, New Zealand and Australia? by Patriotic American on 2002-02-24 21:17:30
Should the United States expand a bit? In my mind, we should offer the provinces and states of Canada, Mexico, and Australia membership in the union. New Zealand might also become two states (north and south island). Many economic and other benefits await us if we do this, and how could it hurt to ask. Patriotism is more than nationalism. What do you think?
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Re: Annex Canada, Mexico, New Zealand and Australia? by lost prophet on 2002-02-25 04:58:56 | Reply to this | |||||||||||||||||||||
yesssss, another american that is full of him(or her)self. i take it it didnt occur to you that Canada, Mexico, New Zealand and Australia together could beat you???? i know they wudnt but instead of being so cocky and arrogent think a bit, ok??
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Re: Annex Canada, Mexico, New Zealand and Australia? by lost prophet on 2002-02-25 04:59:02 | Reply to this | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
yesssss, another american that is full of him(or her)self. i take it it didnt occur to you that Canada, Mexico, New Zealand and Australia together could beat you???? i know they wudnt but instead of being so cocky and arrogent think a bit, ok??
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Re: Annex Canada, Mexico, New Zealand and Australia? by Patriotic American on 2002-02-25 21:31:05 | Reply to this | |
Let me clarify: all i'm proposing is that we make a humble, respectful offer for a merger of equals just because these countries are so awesome. |
Re: Annex Canada, Mexico, New Zealand and Australia? by tommie on 2002-02-26 08:30:54 | Reply to this | |
In keeping with my Alabama heritage, I say we split up! |
Re: Annex Canada, Mexico, New Zealand and Australia? by --rac-hel-- on 2002-03-01 06:51:54 | Reply to this | |||||||||||||||||
i dont think america should annex... i think we're fine how we are, I mean why should we push other countries to be like us? they're fine how they are, plus america sort of sucks. of course i DO live here, but im leaving.
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Re: Annex Canada, Mexico, New Zealand and Australia? by Phil Golovin on 2003-02-15 21:25:32 | Reply to this | |||||||||||||||||||||
Canada and Mexico should be annexed! The only reason the canadians exist is because the USA could not expel the british years ago. Likewise, with Mexico, the USA failed to expel hispanic influence. People from Canada and Mexico WANT to be US citizens, so let's give them the chance!!!
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Re: Annex Canada, Mexico, New Zealand and Australia? by Wash! on 2003-02-16 03:18:56 | Reply to this | |
Tell me you're not serious! |
Re: Annex Canada, Mexico, New Zealand and Australia? by A smart person on 2003-04-22 11:14:01 | Reply to this | |
Just like one of the other people said, The United States could be defeated by any of these countries. Here's some reasons: 1 Canada (and New Zealand and Australia) are in better relations with the rest of the world than the United States. An attack could mean outside intervention. 2 In the event of hostilities, outside influences from those countries could be ended, potentially ruining the economies of the western United States, who rely upon Canadian and Mexican oil, electricity and water, just to keep the place habitable. 3 The risk of losing oil would be to great for George W. to bear. There wouldn't be a war in the first place. |
Re: Annex Canada, Mexico, New Zealand and Australia? by omee on 2003-06-11 23:33:35 | Reply to this | |
Yo! Well, i'm mexican, so maybe i should give my opinion 'bout this (yeah right, no one cares, beaner!!) Ahm.... so, i'd like to say that we're like a US state... everywhere you look u can see some american brand...Levi's, Mc Donalds, Burger King, Coca Cola, Ford, Sony, Hewlett Packard (well, maybe they're not 100% american, but there's at least a word in english in every announcement... Finally all government decisions are taken if Washington agree... that's the thing with Latinamerica... i can´t complain, i cant stop taking my iPod everywhere i go.... |
Re: Annex Canada, Mexico, New Zealand and Australia? by Tom Cowan Fan on 2003-06-17 11:12:13 | Reply to this | |||||||||||||
Australasia are OURS hence the Union Jack on their flags, ok might be the other side of the world but it's still ours and no-one elses!
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Re: Annex Canada, Mexico, New Zealand and Australia? by Bellae on 2003-07-26 05:23:32 | Reply to this | |||||||||
I'm an Australian... i dont want to be an American thanx. Besides, it wont happen, you might as well say lets just call the planet America and buy out all the rest of the continents.
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Re: Annex Canada, Mexico, New Zealand and Australia? by your mum on 2003-08-20 14:56:45 | Reply to this | |
i thought the initial topic was a joke myself. |
Re: Annex Canada, Mexico, New Zealand and Australia? by Caesar797 (AIM) on 2003-08-26 23:15:35 | Reply to this | |
I think we should annex most definitely. Are there any senators or presidential candidates that are open to that idea? |
Re: Annex Canada, Mexico, New Zealand and Australia? by I don't like it!!! on 2003-10-26 00:55:24 | Reply to this | |
What kind of Australian suggests we merge with Americans, they have invaded enough as it is, in fact we need to back off and express some individuality. Look around you all you will see are American influences, I'm sick of it. The last thing we need is to become full of ourselves as they are. No offence, I'm not racist, i just don't like the idea of becoming any more Americanised. |
Re: Annex Canada, Mexico, New Zealand and Australia? by Jessica on 2003-11-09 12:55:56 | Reply to this | |
Australians are Australians And Americans are Americans and thats the way it should stay----except for Steve Erwin.You can have all of him.We don't want the goose |
Re: Annex Canada, Mexico, New Zealand and Australia? by Wash! on 2003-11-10 07:35:03 | Reply to this | |
What about Jeff Agoose? Do you want him? |
Re: Annex Canada, Mexico, New Zealand and Australia? by http://www.ontariousa.org on 2004-02-05 20:18:36 | Reply to this | |
Re: Annex Canada, Mexico, New Zealand and Australia? by http://www.ontariousa.org on 2004-02-05 20:18:52 | Reply to this | |
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Re: Annex Canada, Mexico, New Zealand and Australia? by Cyberjunkie on 2004-02-20 02:10:53 | Reply to this | |
Well, yet again we are all exposed to some good old American arrogance and suprematism. Not that American's should take offence in my saying that, it's simply part of your national psyche. But in response to what "Patriotic American" suggested, the world should take offence. Firstly, the term annex is insulting, given its colloquial term means ‘to take without right’. He could have at least suggested that Canada, Mexico, Australia and New Zealand merge with the United States to lessen the insult. Secondly, and more importantly, it would never ever happen. None of these countries would ever agree to be subordinate to the United States, especially considering its form of democracy – or lack there of. And the fact that Canada, Australia and New Zealand would have to become republics first seems to have been overlooked (the only country where this would happen in the near future is Australia). In fact the only likely union of any of these countries would be of Australia and New Zealand. In has long been thought that New Zealand would eventually turn back to Australia to take is rightful place as the seventh state. New Zealand walked away from the Commonwealth (federation) of Australia before it was established in 1901 to attempt at its own independence. However the connection between Australia and New Zealand is much deeper than its shared history, they share the same culture. Whether a union between Australia and New Zealand first takes form as a customs union, eventually they will merge. There is already a movement within Oceania to establish an economic block that also has the potential to be incorporate in the Australian Commonwealth. Australia and the US have similar societies, our cultures in many aspects couldn’t be further apart. For example, America cherishes guns and is very passionate about its constitutional right to own guns, whereas Australia is consistently moving towards a complete ban. Additionally, in all four of the mentioned countries there is a sub-culture of anti-Americanism that would thwart any plan to ‘annex’ the countries. Australians, who do have a cautious love of Americans, have the motto ‘close, but not to close’ when referring to US alliance – which has never been stronger. We understand that we need America as a friend, and we have sacrificed to have them so. NB: If it weren’t for Steve Irwin’s conservation efforts, I’d say America could have him. |
Re: Annex Canada, Mexico, New Zealand and Australia? by Mary's Lamb on 2004-02-20 06:07:01 | Reply to this | |
The United States of America should stay just that - 'of America', and leave Australia and New Zealand alone. If Canada and Mexico wante cede into the United States (probably never would) than they can, and then it would still be the United States of America - or north america anyway. |
Re: Annex Canada, Mexico, New Zealand and Australia? by Antipodean Paradise on 2004-02-20 07:37:51 | Reply to this | |
Sorry mate, Australia is way, way, out of your league. |
Re: Annex Canada, Mexico, New Zealand and Australia? by Nice American on 2004-02-23 14:47:14 | Reply to this | |
I do not think the question being asked meant "take over" these countries, just if we should offer them to join the Union. This would not be the first time I have heard this proposal and likely wont be the last. Everytime I have heard this proposal it has been from people that really like Canada, Mexico, New Zealand, and Austrailia (though it has usually focused on just Canada or just Mexico). It has also usually been asked under the ficticious scenario of Canada or Mexica asking to be part of the union much like then independent Republic of Texas did in 1845. As for the term "annex," it is not ment to be an insult, it is simply the word America has always used to describe adding a state or territory to the union when that state or territory has asked to join (i.e. the annexation of Texas). Also, from what I can remember, British Columbia had debates over whether to become a state or province before asking to become a province of Canada. The United States and Canada share the longest (in terms of time) undisputed board and of all the nations in the world, whenever an American finds him/herself rooting for anything not American, it is usually for something Canadian (in things like the olympics). Americans feel there is a dirty aura around concuring new land by forse inorder to make it part of the US and when we have had to concur another nation (like Germany and Japan in WWII) we have always left them as seperate countries (unlike the former USSR and former East Germany) without even asking them to join. It will be a cold day in hell before the US tries to concur more land for itself. The only way the US will grow in size is if an unusially large margority of citizens from these nations ask to become members of the Unided States. |
Re: Annex Canada, Mexico, New Zealand and Australia? by Rob Guthrie on 2004-03-02 01:58:20 | Reply to this | |
You want Canada to join the states? No thank-you. You can have Quebec if you want... |
Re: Annex Canada, Mexico, New Zealand and Australia? by tommie on 2004-03-02 05:19:02 | Reply to this | |||||||||||||||||
Does anyone here know the translation of the latin phrase on the back of the US one dollar bill (the one below the pyramid) "novus ordo seclorum"?
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Re: Annex Canada, Mexico, New Zealand and Australia? by tommie on 2004-03-03 05:27:37 | Reply to this | |
...and the answer is (drum roll) "New World Order!" Scary, huh? |
Re: Annex Canada, Mexico, New Zealand and Australia? by Keith, Canberra on 2004-03-30 02:12:56 | Reply to this | |
being from australia i spose my veiw is a bit more important then those of you in america, cause it'd have to be our decision or it'd never happen. Australians have i kind of love-hate thing goin with the US, we love the simpsons, but we hat it when you beat us in sport, we love Queer Eye For The Straight Guy, but we hate your gun laws, etc. Bits of your culture we take on, and others we reject. there are probably too many differences between us for it to ever become a reality, but globalisation is coming along. pretty soon we'll have the European Union, Asia, and The US. and probably Cuba all by itself. |
Re: Annex Canada, Mexico, New Zealand and Australia? by Tazz on 2004-10-21 21:36:30 | Reply to this | |
I just don't get you Americans. Why do you think that everyone wants to be apart of your country. As a canadian, I must say that I live a wonderful life. Thier is nothing that the USA could provide for me that I can't get in the great white north. |
Re: Annex Canada, Mexico, New Zealand and Australia? by KC on 2005-10-03 03:50:11 | Reply to this | |
Why would you want to do this? its a stupid thing to say! |
Re: Annex Canada, Mexico, New Zealand and Australia? by Jon the European American on 2005-11-13 23:23:13 | Reply to this | |||||
First of all i am pretty sure the dude was just joking. Also no, those four nations could not beat the U.S. That's like saying the Arab league could defeat Israel (gee, didn't they try?). America is stronger and more advanced than mexico, they would plow through it like Germany through Poland. Canada would put up a fight, but would be beaten. Australia and New Zealand would be the hardest, due to their far distance. There would probably not be any foreing intervention, China might invade it's neighbors in an attempt to take advantage of the chaos, and Europe would only mobilize to defend itself. However given time, the U.S. would beat them. This is due to more advanced technology and weapons. Of course the U.S. would have to implement the draft again to gain the manpower necessary to do all this. But the only country I personally think we should take is Mexico. Not all of it, just the northern territories where all the oil is. We could use it more than they could. Besides, all those mexicans are trying to sneak into America and Canada to rape their citizens of their wealth, jobs, and educations anyway. I agree with the man who said the only union really conciveable would be that of Australia and New Zealand. In the end I doubt good allies like America, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand will ever fight against eachother. America needs its allies and its allies need it.
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